Posts by Room 215

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intel on warwick project

by stuckinamovement in

the committee assigned to build the new complex was called into a meeting with the governing body.

they were told " you finish this project by january 1 2017. we want the keys to the complex and will be headquartered there by that date, do you understand?".

when the brothers protested and said that it would take 6 years for the project to be complete and if they moved that fast there would be many mistakes, the gb responded, "we don't care, that is your deadline".

Room 215

" They told us "for the time being, comply since you have plenty of other territory to cover. " ... WTF? Judge Rutherford and Knorr must be spinning in their graves....

What about the good ol' days when JWs were instructed to defy local ordinances en masse, to provoke mass arrests, publicity and set the stage for Hayden Covington to mount a legal challenge leading all the way to the US Supreme Court? Anyone remember the handy little booklet every JW kept in his bookbag during the 50s "Defending and Legally Establishing The Good News" ??

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another problem with the new FDS doctrine

by inbetween in

the issue july 15th 2013 changes the understanding of the fds dramatically, and it was broiught out here and on other places this creates numerous problems.. here is another one:.

jesus is supposed to be the head of the congregation.

when something goes wrong, he is often portrayed as the one having control over his congregation and also that in time he will act, clean the congo and direct elders (being the stars in his hand).

Room 215

" if you don't obey them and agree with everything they say, you are in danger of being annihilated at Armageddon "... that's after they first trash your family life in the meantime.

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Found a good video on Youtube about WTBT$

by Newly Enlightened in

it's only about 8 minutes long.

but he brings up the child abuse policies and cover ups and was disfellowshipped for being an 'apostate & liar'.

it's pretty good:.

Room 215

bttt.... for anyone who watched it... did any of you see that reference to the elders in non-reporting states being told to make an anonymous call to the police from a public phone?

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Your Top 5 - Most Harmful JW Teachings

by Scully in

we all know that the doctrine and dogma of the wts is completely false, so i'm not even going to include topics like "trinity" or "gehenna" or anything like that in my personal list.. but i'd like to see what other people list as their top five most harmful jw teachings.. #5. females in the congregation are inferior to males.. #4. you must override your personal conscience in favour of wts rules, even when you know it's wrong.. #3. shunning disfellowshippedtm and disassociatedtm individuals, without being allowed to form your own opinion or hear their side of the story, even when it is a family member or close friend, this teaching destroys families and results in far too many people taking their own lives from the agony of being rejected by the only people they have ever had relationships with.. #2. forsaking higher education, well-paid employment and planning for retirement.. #1. the no-blood rule has cost more lives since it was first introduced by rutherford than jonestown, 10 times over..

Room 215

Pretty much all of the above.... Overridng everything is their contempt/uncompassion for non JWs and their complete lack of social conscience and natural charitable impulses, which have been brainwashed out of them .

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Masterful Refutation Of The July 15 WT "New Light" Articles

by Room 215 in

don't know whether anyone has made prior reference to this treatise by doug mason -- if so, i most have missed it; but it's an important document and "keeper" for anyone interested in throughly acquainting themselves with the logical and scriptural fallacies, not to mention the underlying intellectual dishonesty of this "gb = fds" change: http://www.jwstudies.com/the_truth_changes.pdf.

Room 215

Don't know whether anyone has made prior reference to this treatise by Doug Mason -- If so, I most have missed it; but it's an important document and "keeper" for anyone interested in throughly acquainting themselves with the logical and scriptural fallacies, not to mention the underlying intellectual dishonesty of this "GB = FDS" change: http://www.jwstudies.com/The_Truth_Changes.pdf

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Found a good video on Youtube about WTBT$

by Newly Enlightened in

it's only about 8 minutes long.

but he brings up the child abuse policies and cover ups and was disfellowshipped for being an 'apostate & liar'.

it's pretty good:.

Room 215

The reason he says the elders called him a "liar" was his assertion that the confidential so-called tele-memo document from the Society on Pp 67-68 (he cites a link to Barbara Anderson's website for reference, where a full copy of the document can be found) .. advises elders in states with no reporting requirements to phone in such reports ananymously and from a public telephone.

I don't find any such reference to making an anonymous tip to the police there... does anyone see it in the text of that document? If so, please point it out.

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Accused of thinking too much

by biometrics in

i've been officially accused of "thinking too much".. i've tried to quit thinking, but i'm hoplessly addicted to it.i just can't seem to turn my brain off.. at times duing my school years i was accused of not thinking enough.

now i'm guilty of thinking too much!.

the brother even went on to say "could you imagine what the witness organisation if everyone was thinking independently like you do"?

Room 215

It's a corollary to the other label often pinned on awakening thinkers: "You're too smart for your own good."

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Blondie's CommentsYou Will Not Hear at the 06-30-2013

by blondie in

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Room 215

Thanks Blondie, get well quickly. So the GB self-describes itself modestly as "wonderful" (paragraph 2) and "incredible" (paragraph 18); paragraph 6 informs us that this assemblage of spiritual titans " oversees" -- not actually participates -- "in the researching, writing, etc." I also counted 27 exclamation points, about the same number that regularly appear in a typical Superman or Batman comic!! did I miss any? (my two don't count)

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A Chicken Story, by Anthony Morris the Third

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ukz5m-yo4&feature=youtu.be.

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cedars.

Room 215

" I heard splane give the talk and the numbers were different. He said it was 50 chickens."

So this chicken story is actually scripted into the DC talk outline -- institutionalized for use by all assigned speakers, and not just Tony the Turd's extemporaneous remark?" That's scary.

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My first talk with JWs at the door while on vacation

by troubled mind in

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this was the first time in almost eight years i have had a conversation with a jw .

we were on vacation last week at my son and daughter in laws home .

one morning the doorbell rang and as i went to answer it my daughter in law said she thought it was witnesses .

Room 215

I give the two Jws credit for their willingness to continue their conversation with you, once you explained your personal situation vis-a-vis the organization.